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guns in america, should anything be done or are you comfortable with where things are? >> actually, i'm comfortable. i think that, for example, the killing that has aroused mr. costas' anger was an act of hatred and brutality, and that person wanted to kill somebody, they didn't need a gun to do it. so look, i just believe that it's one of our rights and -- joe? >> i start with the belief that the second amendment actually does protect the right of individual americans to own guns, but in my opinion, it's no more unlimited than the right of free speech which has limits. so i've supported, for instance, bans on the automatic weapons and for a while we've been trying to close what's called the gun show loophole. if you go in a store, it's pretty regulated now, to buy a gun at a regular gun shop there's a check done on you and national computer file of criminal records or if you can mental health records or indications of violence. if you go to a gun show, you don't have to do that. that's a problem. it's even a problem related to homeland security because some terrorists
guns in america, should anything be done or are you comfortable with where things are? >> actually, i'm comfortable. i think that, for example, the killing that has aroused mr. costas' anger was an act of hatred and brutality, and that person wanted to kill somebody, they didn't need a gun to do it. so look, i just believe that it's one of our rights and -- joe? >> i start with the belief that the second amendment actually does protect the right of individual americans to own guns,...
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america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. >>> we'll hear from an eyewitness close enough to the gunman to admit "i am the shooter." >>> a provocative act, north korea launches a rocket overnight. is this a coverup for a ballistic missile program? >>> house republicans give president owe pa ma a counter offer on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. will it be a compromise the president can agree with? >>> an asteroid buzzes right between the earth and the moon. the question is, how did it get past astronomers? >> it's wednesday, december 12th and "starting point" begins right now. good morning, welcome, everybody. our team, deepak chopra, the author of "super brain, unleashing the superpower of your mind." i'd like to maximize my health, happiness and spiritual well-bei well-bei well-being. this is my christmas present to myself. margaret hoover cnn contributor and former white house appointee to the bush administration, ryan is a washington corresponder for "the new yorker" and cn
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. >> all right folks the real divide in america is not just the rich and the poor it is between private and public workers. don't think the folks haven't figured that out. we have an eye opening poll for you on that subject. stay with us please. work hard . since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] oh what fun it is to ride. get the mercedes-benz on your wish list at the winter event going on now through december 31st. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 e350 for $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. >>> all right a very bad story. you are looking at a live picture outside a mall in portland, oregon. people have been killed. witnesses say the gunman had a rifle. we will report later. president ob
. >> all right folks the real divide in america is not just the rich and the poor it is between private and public workers. don't think the folks haven't figured that out. we have an eye opening poll for you on that subject. stay with us please. work hard . since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans...
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america, he said, dictated to other nations. no, mr. president, america has freed other nations from dictators. >> you like if way he gets a little lack ri moes? he gets teary-eyed. >> no apology. no tour. the only thing that the democrats were saying when they came in, what obama was saying, look, george bush alienated a lot of our friends and enemies. we've got to get back only a path where the united states is in a better place, vis-a-vis the rest of the world. nothing like an apology tour. and, by the way, president obama did, in fact, take out some dictators himself. >> that's the one that strikes me, michael. i think he was setting that up as a predicate. he was going to be one of these american exceptionalists that went around saying we're always right, you're always wrong. get out of the way. i thought it was war talk. >> yeah, romney's foreign policy message never made a lot of sense. his message essentially seem today be i'm going to talk tougher. i'm somehow going to twist putin's arm a little bit harder. it was very tonal. t
america, he said, dictated to other nations. no, mr. president, america has freed other nations from dictators. >> you like if way he gets a little lack ri moes? he gets teary-eyed. >> no apology. no tour. the only thing that the democrats were saying when they came in, what obama was saying, look, george bush alienated a lot of our friends and enemies. we've got to get back only a path where the united states is in a better place, vis-a-vis the rest of the world. nothing like an...
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. >> the executives at aig, lehman brothers, bank of america, countrywide mortgage had nothing to do with this. this was all the government's fault. >> the government created the conditions where they did what they did, and if the government had kept a stable dollar you never would have needed this currency trading, default swaps and the like, so when you have a bad environment, people try to adjust to it, and the crazy things happen. in the 1970s, ail went from $3 to $40 a barrel and when we conquered the inflation and went back down, and we should do the same thing today. stable dollar, like 60 minutes an hour, thinking that changing minutes in an hour will help stimulate the economy, no. we need stability. >> gentlemen, you have very sufficiently filled eight minutes and i'm sure you could have filled 18 had we given them to you. >> two smart guys with two very different opinions. >> good to see you both. >> thanks. >> see you later. >> thanks for joining us. manpower survey shows businesses will continue to hire in the first quarter of next year with the fiscal cliff looming larg
. >> the executives at aig, lehman brothers, bank of america, countrywide mortgage had nothing to do with this. this was all the government's fault. >> the government created the conditions where they did what they did, and if the government had kept a stable dollar you never would have needed this currency trading, default swaps and the like, so when you have a bad environment, people try to adjust to it, and the crazy things happen. in the 1970s, ail went from $3 to $40 a barrel...
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i think america needs to address this entitlement issue. for my son i would be willing to postpone when i receive my entitlements. >> your sacrifice would be you would work longer to make sure that the children being born today are going to be able to have some sort of insurance and security? >> exactly, yes. >> you know, it's interesting. the voice at the table when we talk about all these things now is not the 5-month-old who will have no voice when you talk about $16 trillion in debt. jeff, so what does it take to get someone like alicia hired? >> i think that the economic underpinnings underpinnings require some security and some long-term stability. it is not enough for congress to come along and say, okay, we have decided on this deal for 2013. i think the political class is loving this attention. we're all sitting here on pins and needles and bated breath waiting for they on high to decide our futures. it would be really nice if we could get back to the point where we say here is the rates, here is the appreciation, here is the withh
i think america needs to address this entitlement issue. for my son i would be willing to postpone when i receive my entitlements. >> your sacrifice would be you would work longer to make sure that the children being born today are going to be able to have some sort of insurance and security? >> exactly, yes. >> you know, it's interesting. the voice at the table when we talk about all these things now is not the 5-month-old who will have no voice when you talk about $16...
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this is about democracy and about america. also want to say for economic development, governor snyder was just bragging yesterday 144,000 jobs since he's been governor. most of those created by the auto industry through collective bargaining. we sat down with ford, general motors, and chrysler, our membership made sacrifices so we could get more economic development, more product, investment. billions of dollars is going into michigan because of unions and collective bargaining helping not just union workers but workers, all workers throughout the state. and you know, chris, and i know, in right to work states, average income is down, average wages is down, not as much pension or retirement security is in union states, less spending on k through 12 education, less spending on infrastructure. why? because workers make less, less tax revenue coming in. right to work is bad for americans. >> why do people like the koch brothers oppose unionization, mr. hagerstrom? >> unions will continue to thrive and to go forward. this gives in
this is about democracy and about america. also want to say for economic development, governor snyder was just bragging yesterday 144,000 jobs since he's been governor. most of those created by the auto industry through collective bargaining. we sat down with ford, general motors, and chrysler, our membership made sacrifices so we could get more economic development, more product, investment. billions of dollars is going into michigan because of unions and collective bargaining helping not just...
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>> founded america atheists. we should try not to offend people. that doesn't mean -- stuart: i got to you. >> of course you did. you're not letting me speak and it does get to me. stuart: you offended me with your billboard. one last question. >> yeah, go ahead. stuart: is it true that madeline murray o'hare has a tombstone somewhere and on it is wriiten atheist, all dressed up and nowhere to go. is that true? >> no, i don't believe that's true. stuart: i thought not. >> i want to wish you and everybody a happy holidays. you're not an atheist, be out to -- be nice to an atheist near you. if you are an atheist, come out to your family, they need to know who you are. >> thank you very much. stuart: up next, judge napolitano. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have oblations. cute obligations, but obligatio. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. i have oblations. cute owhat i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares fo
>> founded america atheists. we should try not to offend people. that doesn't mean -- stuart: i got to you. >> of course you did. you're not letting me speak and it does get to me. stuart: you offended me with your billboard. one last question. >> yeah, go ahead. stuart: is it true that madeline murray o'hare has a tombstone somewhere and on it is wriiten atheist, all dressed up and nowhere to go. is that true? >> no, i don't believe that's true. stuart: i thought not....
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it is the number one asset in america. [talking over each other] charles: if people feel better and they start to spend money look at how much credit card debt has come down. he wants people to invest. does anyone really think that if interest rates are one tick lower we would get a surge harks back. [talking over each other] >> the big thing is they are going whole hog on buying treasuries. operation twist was exchanging one form of bond for another. they have run out of short-term treasuries. this is pure execution of the debt. the giant suction sound you are hearing. >> we have seen a stock market that has been somewhat artificially propped up by this week u.s. dollar. are people going to want to own stocks with this very weak dollar. it has not been fundamentally changing the economic environment in this country. dennis: the idea that stocks are now in a stock bubble when we are still not at the october 7 levels. the earnings multiple -- for 20 years it was at about 20. this is not a stock market bubble. >> he is not d
it is the number one asset in america. [talking over each other] charles: if people feel better and they start to spend money look at how much credit card debt has come down. he wants people to invest. does anyone really think that if interest rates are one tick lower we would get a surge harks back. [talking over each other] >> the big thing is they are going whole hog on buying treasuries. operation twist was exchanging one form of bond for another. they have run out of short-term...
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perhaps no place in america more closely associated with unions than the state of michigan. and today, thousands of union workers descended on the capital to protest a new law they believe could be an ominous signal for unions and worker paychecks everywhere. here's abc's alex perez. >> reporter: the anger boiling over. officers turning to pepper spray to control the crowd at least 10,000 deep. but it wasn't enough. michigan republican lawmakers approving landmark legislation, lifting the requirement that workers in unionized workplaces pay union dues. an army of officers have been guarding the governor's office all day. some of these demonstrators have been here since 5:00 this morning. the republican governor has signed the law. >> with a stroke of a pen, take our rights away. it's offensive. >> reporter: supporters call it right to work, but unions say it's nothing less than an effort to cut their bargaining power. less dues means less influence. the afl-cio says the average worker in right to work states earns $1,500 less than workers in states without those laws. >> the
perhaps no place in america more closely associated with unions than the state of michigan. and today, thousands of union workers descended on the capital to protest a new law they believe could be an ominous signal for unions and worker paychecks everywhere. here's abc's alex perez. >> reporter: the anger boiling over. officers turning to pepper spray to control the crowd at least 10,000 deep. but it wasn't enough. michigan republican lawmakers approving landmark legislation, lifting the...
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she wanted to introduce this dish to mainstream america. using her former skills as a marketer, she created mother in law's kimchi. the product is now carried in whole foods and fresh markets. for more, watch "your business" this sunday at 7:30 on msnbc. oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> labor has taken some big losses in the west. most recently michigan yesterday, and the movement now is going to try to get revenge in the elections two years from now. joining me now, politico executive editor and ron mott live in lansing, michigan. first, you, ron mott, the day after the governor rick snyder has signed the right-
she wanted to introduce this dish to mainstream america. using her former skills as a marketer, she created mother in law's kimchi. the product is now carried in whole foods and fresh markets. for more, watch "your business" this sunday at 7:30 on msnbc. oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate...
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because this is america. and we don't just make things you want,
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america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. >>> we now know the names of the two people killed at an oregon mall shooting. investigators are calling heinous. 54-year-old cindy ann yuille is described as everybody's friend who put everybody first. steven matthew forsyth is being remembered as a passionate and zest for life. kristina shevchenko remains hospitalized in serious condition. dan, what do we know about the gunman? >> reporter: wolf, we can tell you that the shooter stole the gun that was used during the attack, according to authorities, stole the gun just the day before it happened. came here to the mall, police side fied the shooter as 22-year-old jacob tyler roberts of portland. >> the weapon recovered is an ar-47 rifle. the gun actually jammed and that likely prevented even more loss of life. at this point, we haven't found anything that would suggest a motive. this is somebody, according to people we've talked to, was very popular in high school. seemed to be well ad
america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. >>> we now know the names of the two people killed at an oregon mall shooting. investigators are calling heinous. 54-year-old cindy ann yuille is described as everybody's friend who put everybody first. steven matthew forsyth is being remembered as a passionate and zest for life. kristina shevchenko remains hospitalized in serious condition. dan, what do we know about the gunman? >> reporter: wolf, we can...
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you cannot solve america's problems. you cannot leave the kind of country behind for our children and grandchildren that our parents left behind for us until you make the entitlement programs meet the demographics of our country. we have known that for years. when are we ever going to make those kind of decisions? we will have another opportunity later, when the debt ceiling issue arrives. when are we going to make this decision? that is our question. this whole discussion -- and admittedly, the president has some advantages, being one messenger. you would think this whole discussion was about nothing other than raising the top two has tax rates. -- two tax rates. that has literally nothing to do with solving the problem. i have been waiting for the president to become serious about solving the problem. i do not know when he is going to become serious. it sounds to me like we are running out of time. we will take our cues from the speaker as to when they are able, if they are able, to reach some kind of agreement. >> the
you cannot solve america's problems. you cannot leave the kind of country behind for our children and grandchildren that our parents left behind for us until you make the entitlement programs meet the demographics of our country. we have known that for years. when are we ever going to make those kind of decisions? we will have another opportunity later, when the debt ceiling issue arrives. when are we going to make this decision? that is our question. this whole discussion -- and admittedly,...
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i call it not the democratic caucus but america as caucus. i'm very proud of that and the things that we were able to accomplish. it's always good to see a new come in, the caucus is where you hold a leadership responsible for what their agenda and goals are throughout the year. xavier and joe i think will do a very good job. host: representative john larson leaving the chairmanship of the democratic caucus but not leaving congress. getting ready to start his eighth term in representing connecticut's first district. if thanks for your time. you're welcome. host: we will be looking at social security, next. stephen ohlemacher will join us, followed by roundtable discussion. first news update from c-span radio. >> its data clock 33 eastern. defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan today. in remarks to about 100 u.s. service members inside an aircraft hangar at a desert base, he thanked them for their service and emphasized that the u.s. is winding down its involvement in the war. he also said that president obama will decide in the next
i call it not the democratic caucus but america as caucus. i'm very proud of that and the things that we were able to accomplish. it's always good to see a new come in, the caucus is where you hold a leadership responsible for what their agenda and goals are throughout the year. xavier and joe i think will do a very good job. host: representative john larson leaving the chairmanship of the democratic caucus but not leaving congress. getting ready to start his eighth term in representing...
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others remember when union supporter martin luther king, seen here, marched with one of america's most accomplished labor leaders, walter ruther, seen here with his hand on king's arm. >> you're young, aren't you? ruther. >> today's protests are reminiscent of an eight decade old fight. in the coming months, that fight could turn into a citizens initiative, repeal, lawsuits or even a recall of elected officials. michigan's law goes into effect in a little over three months. >> do we have any indication because obviously this is a movement, which states might be next? >> take a look at michigan, seen as the center of the labor movement. even the top four union members states could be at risk. at the top you have new york with one in four workers a union member, followed by alaska, hawaii and washington. the number you see on the screen right here, which is the advocacy money, that could be what's changing these traditional union states. according to the nation, we look at those numbers from 2008 to 2011, right to work money was $18 million. pro-union, just $2 million. >> thanks so much.
others remember when union supporter martin luther king, seen here, marched with one of america's most accomplished labor leaders, walter ruther, seen here with his hand on king's arm. >> you're young, aren't you? ruther. >> today's protests are reminiscent of an eight decade old fight. in the coming months, that fight could turn into a citizens initiative, repeal, lawsuits or even a recall of elected officials. michigan's law goes into effect in a little over three months. >>...
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i just use my bank of america debit or credit card when i pay. and then i get up to 15% cash back... put into my account! i know, right? [ male announcer ] introducinbankamerideals, free for online banking customers. sign in to your online banking to choose your deals today. martha: let's get back too our story now that is so awfully compelling today, tshooting at t happened late yesterday afternoon west coast time in portland, oregon, yesterday. we have new reaction this morning from witnesses who describe a true scene of panic. take a look at this. a cellphone photo of shoppers huddled in the back room of a pet store. police releasing scanner audio as well as what the officers were seeing as they searched that mall. that is telling as well. listen to this. >> this is at macy's telling me the suspect with us here. i have multiple shell casings and one 1244. i've got another unknown victim east of me. multiple people walking around, and no active indicators going on right now. >> the gun had jammed and there is a mag laying out here that is fully
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-- right here in america. that nation building program will create 27 million jobs over the next five years. adding $5.-- 5.2 million in the first year alone. 5.2 million jobs in the first year alone. or 433,000 jobs each month. can you imagine if in the spring of 2013 that we had jobs reports that were showing that we were adding 400,000 to 500,000 jobs each month? this economy would soar. unemployment would be reduced. in the first year alone to 6.2%. and in the second year to 5.6%. this added growth in the economy would return $592 billion to the treasury in increased tax receipts. so the $1.2 trillion that you invest in rebuilding this nation , that you invest in putting unemployed people back to work, returning veterans from iraq and afghanistan, will produce almost $600 billion in economic growth while we're rebuilding the infrastructure of this nation. and i will tell you we need to rebuild the infrastructure of this nation. the american society, a civil -- of civil engineers gives us a d rating for the
-- right here in america. that nation building program will create 27 million jobs over the next five years. adding $5.-- 5.2 million in the first year alone. 5.2 million jobs in the first year alone. or 433,000 jobs each month. can you imagine if in the spring of 2013 that we had jobs reports that were showing that we were adding 400,000 to 500,000 jobs each month? this economy would soar. unemployment would be reduced. in the first year alone to 6.2%. and in the second year to 5.6%. this...
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we need to have rational policy and do what's right for america. it can be done cleanly. >> would you prefer a carbon tax? >> i would be for eventually over time have a rational increase in something like a carbon tax, yes. >> what would that look like? >> by the way, we may not need it anymore. i don't want to get into policy like that. it's far more complicated than saying how you should do it. the real issue, i haven't looked at it for a long time, is regional. it costs a lot more to heat your home in michigan than it does in north dakota, because there's more coal in north dakota. hydroelectric is cheaper in maine. how do you do it that's fair to americans. you pay so much for energy and they pay a lot less elsewhere. how do you do it so it's fair. it's complex, but i think it can be done. >> housing policy. this is a piece of potentially a grand bargain. if we reduce the mortgage deduction, what happens? >> well, you say reduce it. first of all, i think it's already limited to $1 million, there's a cap on what you can deduct. it depends on how
we need to have rational policy and do what's right for america. it can be done cleanly. >> would you prefer a carbon tax? >> i would be for eventually over time have a rational increase in something like a carbon tax, yes. >> what would that look like? >> by the way, we may not need it anymore. i don't want to get into policy like that. it's far more complicated than saying how you should do it. the real issue, i haven't looked at it for a long time, is regional. it...
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as i said, unions built the middle class of america. and if i had to choose between a ceo making lots of money and the money getting spread around in a free market system, i'll take the one getting spread around. anti-union, is somebody anti-union for saying harold ford, i'll ask you, i should be able to work where i want to work and pay union dues if i want to pay union dues. is that a demonstrably anti-union position or supporting freedom? >> i think it's supporting freedom. here's another side. unions have played a big role of people having their rights protected, as you well know, to ensure that safety standards are -- >> okay, but that's not answering my question, harold. >> union dues are used for that purpose also. >> but you can't take that money from me if i don't want to give it to you. >> this is all about -- but this is about political purposes. political purposes. so there's a broad set of reasons that these dollars are used for. >> you're still taking it from my pocket and i don't want to give it. >> we're making your work
as i said, unions built the middle class of america. and if i had to choose between a ceo making lots of money and the money getting spread around in a free market system, i'll take the one getting spread around. anti-union, is somebody anti-union for saying harold ford, i'll ask you, i should be able to work where i want to work and pay union dues if i want to pay union dues. is that a demonstrably anti-union position or supporting freedom? >> i think it's supporting freedom. here's...